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Got this from Spart, and it seems legit:

A bill in the Ugandan parliament proposes life imprisonment for anyone convicted of having same-sex relations and imposes the death penalty for "serial offenders." NGO employees working to prevent the spread of HIV could be imprisoned for up to 7 years for "promoting homosexuality." Even members of the public face up to three years in jail if they fail to report homosexual activity to the police within 24 hours!

The bill had been delayed because of some initial international criticism. But after a well-funded and vicious lobbying effort by extremists, it now looks set to be passed -- threatening widespread persecution and bloodshed.

With the decision expected in days, only an irresistible wave of worldwide pressure will be enough to save the lives of gay people in Uganda.

I just signed a new international petition to stop the gay death law. Will you join in?

http://pol.moveon.org/uganda/?r_by=-234328-naIBTUx&rc=paste

Thanks!

Date: 2010-02-12 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comingin2day.livejournal.com
I thinks its just another way Government is using the laws to kill off their own people. Evil is working overtime in killing off the meek and loving. It's not Gay that they are attacking, they are attacking human beings, using fear and punishment. Just like the Nazi's in Adolf Hitler's reign of terror, he could not do it himself, but had many that supported what he had done and society stood by, supporting, and putting into action mass murder, persecution, and the undermining of Mankind and their connection with Hope and Love.

The female castrations that continue, now Gays or the punishment of society against strong opinions. South Africa is turning into Germany before our very eyes. This does not include the massacre's of tribes because one was tall and thin, and sang, versus the short and muscular. The hate that has been brimming and bubbling, corrupting and displacing any Hope and Love this continent has in Mankind is being shredded and destroyed before the worlds eyes.

South Africa has committed many crimes against Mankind and they should be seen as crimes and not a governmental mandate on certain rights. It is just another crime put upon its people.

Date: 2010-02-12 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ar-wahan.livejournal.com
I'm a little confused by your comment. Uganda and South Africa are two different countries. South Africa is fairly liberal in comparison.

Date: 2010-02-12 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comingin2day.livejournal.com
Aren't they on the same continent?

Date: 2010-02-12 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ar-wahan.livejournal.com
Yes, but they are still two different countries. If you were talking about the southern part of Africa (not South Africa, the actual name of an independent nation), that's another thing. But Uganda is quite a bit to the north, closer to central Africa.

Date: 2010-02-12 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comingin2day.livejournal.com
Idi Amin (1925–2003) seized power in 1971, ruling the country with the military for the next eight years.[13] His regime was armed by Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi who saw Amin as a promising fellow Muslim,[14] until the Soviet Union became the primary partner.[12] Amin's rule cost an estimated 300,000 Ugandans' lives. He forcibly removed the entrepreneurial Indian minority from Uganda.[15] The Ugandan economy was devastated.

Museveni has been in power since 1986. In the mid to late 1990s, he was lauded by the West as part of a new generation of African leaders.[citation needed] His presidency has included involvement in the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and other conflicts in the Great Lakes region, as well as the civil war against the Lord's Resistance Army, which has been guilty of numerous crimes against humanity including child slavery and mass murder. Conflict in northern Uganda has killed thousands and displaced millions.

Date: 2010-02-12 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comingin2day.livejournal.com
Though what I am talking about is South Africa in general, my opinions are the same, there is mass corruption, murder of Mankind and it has shown through the centuries the violence it which it treats human life with total disregard. And, yes there are borders that say land belongs to one coutry over another, but the treatment of its citizens is shown over and over again how violent humans can become towards their own. Which, we all have the personalize up close version with Iraq.

Humanity, when it turns upon it's own society using excuses to control and harm; it is those of us that stand by that are guilty when it happens. But, how far does a Country/A continent run by a different leader expel funds and resources to stop crimes in other countries, when it is the responsibility of each Human/Mankind to fight for their independence and rights to live a happy and successful life.

At some point, each of us has to fight individually for our own rights to live and be happy. We/I can not fight someone else's battle if they do not have Faith or Believe in themselves that they/We/I deserve Better.

(Let me apologize first hand..before I go any further. This has sparked me)

Date: 2010-02-13 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teal-cuttlefish.livejournal.com
I think we need to make it clear that we see what is going on, and object. Even people who do believe they deserve Better are at a disadvantage against people with guns who believe they should be oppressed, and making the country aware that people are on the outside watching and objecting is far better than pretending it will go away on its own.

To use your own comparison, ignoring Nazi Germany and waiting for it to right itself would have simply given them license to continue to slaughter their version of undesirables and eventually conquer the world. It's important to be aware of what happens beyond our own boundaries.

(And clearly, your comments sparked something in me. :D )

Date: 2010-02-13 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comingin2day.livejournal.com
Having my own past life experiences of concentration camps and death; I do understand what happens when your own government, neighbors, friends, shop keepers turn their backs upon you while they rape your family and kill them. I do understand what it is like to watch everything good in life as you know it, while being a good person myself, it did not change the evil that happened.

So, yes outrage can be spoken, petitions can be signed, Wars can happen; but if we can not change their society from killing their own or turning their backs upon brothers and sisters, what is the point? Change needs to happen within themselves, fear binds and undermines hope and love; tears families apart and is a crime against their own.

I can go on and on, I can sign every petition, stand and picket for human rights; but it does not take away the frustration and anger at the loss of humanity and the crimes that Government do for whose sake? Theirs, evil?

I do not know what else to say or do. Mankind allows so many evils to happen to itself, at some point victims need to make a stand with violence or they will dissappear into nothing; their only memorance will be a note on a number of how many were murdered in a text book, faceless and nameless.

Date: 2010-02-13 12:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-12 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] el-jefe59.livejournal.com
OK, I signed it!

Date: 2010-02-13 07:13 pm (UTC)

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